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WT March 2014 : "Let your yes be a yes, but your UBM's no is not a no"
by The Song Remains The Same in
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wife has gone out to the kh this a.m., so i thought i'd balance the world karma by reading jwn, and then looked on jw.borg to see if the stats are up yet.

they weren't so i check out the latest study edition as i promised her i would mark one up in all sorts of colours to show the various techniques employed to guide jw's.... anyway, i noticed the contradiction in the two articles; "your speechyes and yet no?

" and "reaching the heart of unbelieving relatives" where in the first they are saying if you say yes, mean it, or if you say no, mean it.
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How many Un-Believing Mates (UBMs) are on here?
by The Song Remains The Same in
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this site really helps.. own up, are you a ubm and how do you cope?.

i am really struggling to put up with all the nonsense.

my wife has some mental health issues which are not solved at all.
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BBC article - Waiting patiently for the end of the world
by The Song Remains The Same in
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2. medical
not sure if this was posted already.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-24642553.

waiting patiently for the end of the worldcolin hambrook is a poet and visual artist with mental health difficulties and me.

he runs disability arts online (dao) a web portal for disabled artists which reviews and showcases their work.. in hambrook's latest autobiographical project, knitting time, he recalls being brought up by a jehovah's witness mother who was mentally ill. she, hambrook and the other jehovah's witnesses they knew, believed that the world was due to end in 1975. this collection of illustrated poetry, and the accompanying art exhibition, explore the psychosis and grief he experienced as a result.. why did you call it knitting time?.
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Reverse Witnessing Idea...
by The Song Remains The Same in
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reading a couple of threads here about how to handle jw's when they try to witness to you, i was wondering if anyone had tried to give an everyday situation example with a couple of choices to a jw and asked them what the right answer is.

then when they have picked, show them that the wt would have given the other, more shocking, answer.

well.... let's say john works someplace, and finds out that there is criminal activity going on.
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My first time at a KH - especially to hear the New Light!!!
by The Song Remains The Same in
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i am not jw, and never intend to be one either.

however, having read a lot about the july 15 wt, i decided to go to the kh today and check out how the new light was going to be delivered.

i thought i would share my observations;.
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If you DF/DA are you then apostate? Just checking...
by The Song Remains The Same in
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i listened to the 'human apostate' speech and have to say i was pretty appalled by the methods used to draw their conclusions on how to spot & act towards apostates.

i've never been in a kh and so never had the pleasure of hearing anything like that.

what got me was the way they defined apostates as basically "people who don't agree with us", and then went on to put apostates in a class along with people who have a "deadly contagious disease", and people who are "mentally ill" - thus (loosely) implying that mental illness is contagious, so stay away our you will catch it!
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How many hours per week did you study/devote to the WT?
by The Song Remains The Same in
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how many hours did you put in on average every week in doing wt activities?.

this would include:-.

i) the meetings and travelling time to/from,.
Watchtower liability for actions based on doctrine?
by The Song Remains The Same in
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2. medical
hi i'm back after a pause and having worked very hard and patiently on trying to wake up my wife to ttatt even before she signs up to become a jw.

it is not an easy road.

i've also had some interesting dialog with an elder in trying to understand how the wt acts over certain issues.
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WT 15 July 2013 - "Look at the Artwork!"
by The Song Remains The Same in
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was just browsing this new issue and trying to make head and tail of what they are talking about, and noticed the final article tucked away on-line;.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/watchtower-artwork/.

not sure if anyone commented, but it takes me back to the discussions on god's earthly org chart here.. this is what they have to say.... "how many times have you said that to yourself or to others when you opened a new issue of this magazine?
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Examples please; How does the WTS 'bait and switch' after Baptism...?
by The Song Remains The Same in
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i was wondering if there is a list already on here that presents the key 'game changers' or 'bait and switch' points that will happen once you get baptised?

this can include behavioral changes by the already members towards the newly baptised.. i've read somewhere about the 'love bombing' and how that stops, heard a bit about the time-in-service reporting, and that pressure to attend the meetings goes up (esp.

if missing a few).